The SWAPA Number
In each podcast we explore a number that will help us explain an issue that matters to our Pilots. This might be a scheduling metric, a Company financial number that impacts us, or anything else that has significance to us as SWAPA Pilots.
Episodes

Oct 12, 2026
Oct 12, 2026
31 min
Today's SWAPA number is 60, as in 60 million in net assets. SWAPA has spent the last three years focused on building a strong financial position as we prepare for the next negotiating cycle, which begins in just nine months.
So today we are sitting down with SWAPA Second Vice President, Hank Ketchum, Internal Audit Committee chair, Andy Rose, and our Finance and Pilot Benefits Director, Nia Williams, to get an update on how we'll finish the 2026 budget and then look ahead to the 2027 budget, which the pilot group will vote on this fall.
Fiscal Year 2027 Proposed Budget

Oct 7, 2026
Oct 7, 2026
29 min
Welcome back to the Contract 2029 Survey, Educate and Poll series. In today's podcast, Glenn Wickline and I chat about the second week of scheduling topics with Scheduling and Analytics Committee member Steven Anders and Negotiating Committee member Jacob Thomas.

Oct 5, 2026
Oct 5, 2026
20 min
Welcome back to the Contract 2029 SEP series. Today's podcast covers some frequently asked questions about Schedule Planning and Execution. For a deep dive into these topics, please read the articles available on the website under the Contract 2029 tab or in the app under the Negotiating Point.

Sep 28, 2026
Sep 28, 2026
54 min
Welcome back to the Contract 2029 SEP series. In today's Survey, Educate and Poll podcast, we sat down with Eric Gavin and Steven Anders from the Scheduling and Analytics Committee to discuss what responses came in during the blank sheet surveys on schedule planning and exchange.

Sep 21, 2026
Sep 21, 2026
40 min
Today's SWAPA Number is 3, as in our three executive officers giving us a brief on the third board meeting of the year. You received an email from the board of directors this past Friday that hit the high points, but three days of business are tough to capture in a quick email.
So here's President Jody Reven, Vice President Kevin Hornburg, and second Vice President Hank Ketchum, to go over all the agenda items that were covered during the September board meetings.
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Aug 31, 2026
Aug 31, 2026
1 hr 5 min
Today's SWAPA Number is 365. That's the number of days of the year that you're probably thinking about your schedule. Whether that's for a minute or several hours, it's always on our minds. Contract 2020 was designed to operate with all of the new scheduling additions in place and working in concert. Two and a half years after ratification, implementation is almost complete. This show is also timely because we also have back-to-back SEP cycles for scheduling on our doorstep. So today I'm sitting down with scheduling and analytics chair, Eric Gavin, former SAC chair, Scott Plyler, and SAC manager, Meagan Nelan, to talk about all the scheduling tools and features on the table so that you can maximize your quality of life and pay.
SHOW NOTE LINKS:The SWAPA Ride Report: Q3 Implementation Preview, Vacation Shift How-To-Guide, & Contract Q&A
Vacation Shifting | Probie to Pro
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Aug 24, 2026
Aug 24, 2026
35 min
Welcome back to the Contract 2029 Survey, Educate and Poll series. I'm Tony Mulhare with SWAPA Communications, and today I'm joined by negotiating committee chair Kurt Heidemann, as well as committee member Jacob Thomas. Today's discussion will focus on retirement and expenses, and we'll hit the highlights of the vast amount of information that we've made available on the website. So please get over to the Contract 2029 page on swapa.org or the negotiating point on the SWAPA app for the deep dive

Aug 17, 2026
Aug 17, 2026
28 min
In this episode of the Contract 2029 Survey, Educate, and Poll Series, host Tony Mulhare is joined by Tony Caparella, Debi Shields, Damian Jennette, and retiring SWAPA IT Director Will Young. The discussion focuses on retirement and benefits planning, with Will sharing firsthand lessons and challenges he encountered while preparing for retirement. His experience provides practical insight for pilots and employees navigating their own retirement decisions

Aug 4, 2026
Aug 4, 2026
16 min
Welcome back to the Contract 2029 Survey Education and Poll Series. Today we are relaunching the Contract 2020 TA Education podcast on Section 3: Expenses, which was originally recorded in December 2023.
Most of that conversation between NC Chair Kurt Heideman and President Jody Reven, who was the NC Chair at the time, is still true.
Hopefully this will provide a thorough look at what our expenses language says today, some background and context on how we arrived at this language, and how it compares to the rest of the industry.

Aug 3, 2026
Aug 3, 2026
31 min
Today's SWAPA Number is 3, as in the 3 step technique that Professional Standards recommends using for conflict resolution out on the line. Listen in to find out what that technique is and how to use it.
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